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Tom Cruise: Yup, Idiot.

Drudge posts this transcript from a Today show appearance this morning wherein Mr. Cruise opines about how dangerous it is that some kids are on “anti-psychotic drugs” and how horrible a thing it is to use other “anti-psychotic drugs” when one is depressed. Hrm.

The thing is, Tom, that neither Adderall nor Ritalin is an anti-psychotic. In fact, both of them are pretty near to methamphetamine in chemical composition (Adderall being a combination of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine), one of the side-effects of which is potential psychosis if abused over the long-term. Methamphetamine has been known to induce paraniod-schizophrenia, for instance. So, yeah, I’ll agree that giving kids speed might not be the best medical choice, and that ADHD looks surprisingly like what we used to call “childhood”, but get the damn facts right.

Now, about those anti-depressants. Those aren’t anti-psychotics either. The main class continues to be Selective Saratonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) like Prozac or Zoloft. There are also other options like Wellbutrin.

It’s true that recently some anti-psychotics have been used to treat bi-polar patients with some success, but that doesn’t reclassify Stimulants and SSRIs as “anti-psychotic drugs”. Let’s be very clear: anti-psychotics are used to treat psychotic disorders, particularly Schizophrenia. Anti-psychotic medications have become fairly important in the treatment of schizophrenia, and there are new ones on the way, but that still doesn’t change the facts on the ground: stimulants and SSRIs aren’t anti-psychotics you ignorant, Scientologist dolt.

  1. Nick says:

    Jennifer,

    I acknowledge you for your perspective that there are issues psychiatric drugs cannot touch.

    Regarding your bi-polar, is there the slightest chance that the chemical imbalance might be CAUSED by something else? Since adrenaline can create a feeling in your body, but is stimulated by an external factor, could it possible also be so with bi-polar?

    Nick

  2. Jennifer says:

    I’m sorry, it’s an occupational hazard. For some reason, pre-pubescent males love the words labia, shaft, nocturnal emission, clitoris, and slough. They try to use them whenever possible. Because of operant conditioning, I hear them, roll my eyes, and think “spare me.”
    This is an excellent example of a psychological issue that anti-depressants would not touch!

    Other than that, I enjoy all the limericks. How about one about Travolta?

  3. Anonymous says:

    the girl jennifer had a fear
    of something she had held quite dear
    a little limerick
    started by nick
    now resulting in a tear

  4. e lear says:

    it seems that another has tried to eclipse
    the brief reign of the poet laureate
    yet the attempt did so assuredly miss
    the target which he shot at

    the only good to come of this deed
    is the fact that mister lear has learned
    quitting is not right so please now take heed
    the king of the poets is returned

  5. Jennifer again says:

    Nick, the assist process is very similar to a psychological treatment known as Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, which is receiving a lot of good press and feedback in the psychological community. It’s been around for about 30 years. You may want to reada little about it to see the similarities.

  6. Jennifer again says:

    Nick, I do agree that many psychological problems originate in traumatic experiences. However, there is a big difference between psychology and psychiatry. Psychology deals with the difficult life experiences we all have experienced that may affect our functioning in daily life. Psychiatry deals with the brain as an electromagnetic, hormone reactive, cellular, and chemical reacting part of the human body. When there are problems with these processes, it is a physical illness like diabetes or kidney failure.

    Example: I have several phobias. And, I have recently developed one of limericks. The phobias are learned problems with my mind. I also have bipolar disorder, which is capable of debilitating my whole body, despite my having a balanced, happy life with my family and career. This is a physical illness.

  7. rael e says:

    E. Lear thought he was quite clever;
    Cruise would think so, never.
    Lear make limericks of strangers;
    Meddling with dangers.
    Nothing quite endeavour.

  8. e lear says:

    edward lear was a little bit queer
    and his friends found him not at all funny
    he liked to poke fun at those most dear
    his disposition being not at all sunny

    then one day as he lay on a big stack of hay
    he had a thought particularly naughty
    and posted a note which got someone’s goat
    who became most definitely haughty

    mister lear resigned to end his reign
    as the post’s most literate bard
    he decided to let another feign
    attempts at entertaining the yard

  9. Anonymous says:

    edward lear was a little bit queer
    and his friends found him not a bit funny
    he liked to poke fun at those most dear
    his disposition being not at all sunny

    then one day as he lay on a big stack of hay
    his thinking particularly naughty
    he posted a note which got someone’s goat
    who became just a little bit haughty

    dear edward resigned to end his brief reign
    as the board’s most literate bard
    he decided to let another poster feign
    attempts at entertaining the yard

  10. Nick says:

    To The Real Jay,

    I would appreciate if you could try to be serious and stop invalidating me, Mr. Psychiatrist. You’re working in a profession where you are supposed to be an expert at handling people, yet you lower yourself to personal invalidations that are false. I’m not ignorant, I’m listening to what you’re saying and sometimes I agree.

    I have not said that chemical imbalance is a lie. I believe that it have been proven.

    Pointing at brutal incidents in the history of psychiatry is something I do because it sort of fascinates me. The brutal history does not mean that you are brutal, or that psychiatrists of today are.

    Could you please answers my questions?

    1) Mass murderers often have a traumatic personal history. Has THAT something to do with them being mass murderers? Or is it just brain chemistry alone?

    2) Adrenaline secreted in the body is a “chemical imbalance”. It’s created because of situations of fear etc. Do you then agree that THAT very “chemical imbalance” was CAUSED by some outside factor, e.g. an accident.

    Nick

  11. e lear says:

    venus dared to call mister cruise a dink
    she laughed and laughed as she said with a wink
    a dink yes he is
    because he takes a quick wizz
    at a reporter who squirted i think

  12. e lear says:

    someone dared to dare the dude
    whom everyone agreed was being quite rude
    it didn’t matter to him
    as he said with a grin
    i enjoy being raunchy and lude

  13. e lear says:

    nick was worried about identity theft
    indeed the perpetrators seemed very deft
    they stole his name
    and ruined his game
    leaving him lonely and bereft

  14. Jennifer says:

    I’ve got a pretty demented sense of humor,but the labia minora line seemed like something I would confiscate from a note from a junior high student where another student said, “Dude, I dare you to put labia minora in a sentence.”

    That having been said, I am back on my anti-Tom campaign. Did you all know there’s a petition to boycott his movie with over 11,000 signatures on-line? Look it up!

  15. Venus says:

    Let’s see. Tom Cruise: Actor..Won: A few acting awards..blah blah…now the foremost on the history of psychiatry.

    John Nash: Some math guy….Won: Nobel something…On: meds…gee, big hoax?

    Catch a clue Tom. You Dink. (yea, dink with a capital D)

  16. Timothy says:

    All right, multiposters, here’s a brief lesson: If you get “internal server error” (because TotalChoice is having some problems, it seems) don’t bloody press post again, the comment is likely already there.

    Duplicate posts will be deleted with extreme prejudice.

  17. The REAL Jay says:

    Ok first off there are a lot of posts with “Jay” on it that I have not made. Maybe they are from another Jay, or just someone trying to discredit me. The proof is in the link at the bottom of the post…

    Chemical imbalances have been proven. If you choose not to believe this just because your personal belief cannot accept scientific findings then that’s your problem. Your refusal to accept it doesn’t change it.

    Also my history of brutality is not laughable, and would only appear so to one who can’t admit I raise a valid point. Psychiatry does help people, and it has changed dramatically. How does citing out dated practices that have been abolished prove that psychiatry is bad? To any intelligent person, it doesn’t…and it just shows a “grasping at straws” attempt to justify an uneducated position.

    There is nothing spiritual about dopaminergic receptors, nictonic receptors, or the effects of serotonin if it is allowed to stay in post synaptic terminals w/o reuptake to the presynaptic terminal. It’s not just “in your head”.

    What I hate about belief systems like scientology is the hole “you are wrong and I am right” mentality without any data whatsoever to back up their claims. You are expected to fall into line based upon the ignorant ramblings of persons that ultimately do more harm than good.

    Sure…let’s get rid of psychiatry! Ok, we can let serail killers become more and more numerous. Or how about being happy about women getting raped….since we’ve killed the medical science that could possibly help and prevent those personalities from comitting the crime!

    Anyways, you prove my point on just how ignorant you people truly are Nick. You bring up bruality in the past, but when I do it’s “laughable”. Quite a double standard you have going there for such an “enlightened” scientologist.

  18. jennifer lived in an anyhow town
    with up so many many bells down
    the poem she thought so very very wrong
    was simply not so very very long
    yet it hit so very very close to home
    that it shocked and dismayed the pretty little gnome
    the author should say he’s very very sorry
    but that would result in yet another story
    let’s just say that he’s quite content
    to be regarded as twisted and bent

  19. Debbie says:

    Tom had dyslexia, which is NOT the ame as ADD or ADDHD, for which many drugs are prescribed for kids.

    What did you expect from someone immoral enough to be engaged to someone young enough to be his daughter! Yuck! Yeah, he loves her, just like he loved Nicole until she got to have her own ideas.

    Well, he does belong to a quasi religious group founded by a science fiction writer with absollutely no medical credentials and no studies to prve any of his harebrained ideas. I would not want to cloud Tom’s opinion with fact. Christian- possibly; scientists – no way!

  20. e lear says:

    the girl liked limericks about nick and cruise, tom
    when she walked down the street people called her the bomb
    when one was written about her
    it created a stir
    even though it was pulled off with aplomb

  21. Jennifer again says:

    That is just wrong on so many levels.

  22. e lear says:

    my dearest my dear my jennifer
    only an affleck away from a bennifer
    you have a great heart
    and shop at k-mart
    for a coat made of labia minora fur

  23. Nick says:

    Timothy,

    Have you read my above post? The spamming were caused because your server said there was an ERROR when I pressed POST. Therefore I pressed it again… and again…. and nothing came up on the board. After about an hour when I checked it again they were ALL up.

    Perhaps you should check your server instead of attacking me?

    Nick

  24. Timothy says:

    Nick: Consider this a warning, any more multi-posting and you will be banned. You’re free to be crazy, and even to spam up our comments with your pro-scientology idiocy, but the multiposting stops or I ban you. That’s how we play around here.

  25. Nick says:

    Jay,

    You are one amusing son of a bitch. You’ve apparently lost the fight and now indulge yourself by engaging in personal attacks. Wow, I’m really impressed by your intellectual approach to this matter. I guess you are a patient, or a psychiatrist, or both? Jay, are you an adult psychiatrist? Think about your god damn reputation. You stupid moron dropped by mother as kid go soak yourself wet fuck-ass ! Wow, now I feel better. (I try to think about my reputation as a scientologist, perhaps I should call you a jerk).

    Jennifer,

    Although I like your joke, yes, you can try a touch assists. It unfortunately requires a body pain. Let’s say you have a headache in your forehead. You need an assistant. Lie down. Let the assistent touch your toe with one of his fingers, saying :

    Assistant: “Do you feel my finger?”
    If you feel his finger you say:
    You: “Yes.”

    Then he touches the same point (the toe), but on the other side of the spine, that is, the toe on your other foot.

    Assistant: “Do you feel my finger?”
    You: “Yes.”

    Then the assistant works himself up from the toes (always start as far away from the brain as possible), alternating on each side of the spine all the time, touching different points, toes, legs, knees, hands, stomach, torso etc. up to brain. The communication is VERY important. Can you feel my finger? Yes.

    When you come close to the point of pain, you do some extra there. E.g. pain in knee, do many extra touches so that the pain area is BETWEEN the brain and the finger touching.

    Repeat. I’ve done this myself when I’ve had headache and it has sometimes totally gone away, I must say though that it was more on a temporarily basis. Perhaps it needs to be done many more times for it to completely go away? However, it was a fascinating experience.

    Nick

  26. Nick says:

    That’s a very interesting questions you’ve got there Sigmund. When does the mental illness originate from the body, and when does it originate from the mind?

    I have no scientifically proven answer, carefully examined and tested by educated persons to that question, so I can only make some GUESSES, in TRYING to search for answers about mental illnesses.

    Mind over matter (or perhaps spirit over matter), must be understood. It’s NOT the other way around. We, as thetans, spiritual beings, control the MEST (Matter, Energy, Space and Time) universe by making postulates and decisions. We control much more than we think we do.

    I believe that mental illnesses are caused by the mind, not the body. Ok, ok, ok. That brain tumor causing psychotic reactions? What if the brain tumor turned something on in the mind that caused the psychotic reaction? I highly doubt that every person who gets a brain tumor develop psychotic reactions.

    I mean, I’ve had strange reactions of my body when I’ve been stressed for example. I’m just so totally convinced that we create much of this mental disorders “by ourselves”, NOT always, like in severe mental illness (then it’s the minds fault), but otherwise. This is BASED on my very own experiences, developing strange pains near the heart, thinking it’s a heart attack or something, when it really was caused by apparent stress.

    I mean man, come on. Of course about 70-80 % of all mental illnesses are psychosomatic. Come one, almost all the “mental syndroms” I’ve ever had, I’ve been able to track back to specificic incidents or stressed moments.

    But you psychiatrists. No, no. It’s all biological. Somebody gets anxiety attacks, oh, yes, it’s a chemical imbalance. Have you investigated the persons background? Oh, she was severely beaten by her dad as a kid? WAIT A MINUTE! Perhaps THAT has something to do with it? Perhaps there are actual incidents that causes these mental illnesses?

    Guys, you need to get a grip of what the hell you are doing.

    Nick

  27. Jennifer again says:

    Okay, first off the Tom Cruise limerick was hysterical, whether you’re a scientologist or not.

    Second, I am not 14 or a psychiatrist. I’m a 36 year old school teacher. Dianetics is not on this year’s required reading ,I’m afraid.

    Third, if scientology helps you, then do it and you have my support. However, when you claim that your way is the only way, you lose my support.

    Fourth, since scientology has all these hot celebrities, how can I get one of those physical assists the website talks about?

  28. Jay says:

    Nick

    I never knew that you studied at the University for five years. With that information, I must modify my assessment. After five years of study, you truly are an idiot not an imbecile after all.

    Jay

  29. Sigmund says:

    Oh Nickie,

    You do love me! Thank you again for responding in such a prompt fashion with such an informed answer! Your mind fascinates me. To think, when you don’t eat, you may start to feel bad! Please, oh please, tell me: How do you tell when mental disease originates from the mind and when it originates from physical causes? Does a serotonin imbalance, as demonstrated in the lab, constitute a physical cause or does the serotonin imbalance originate from the mind? Oh, I am so confused and I just know you can straighten me out.

    Oh, Nickie, please help me. Yours, as always, Siggie

  30. Nick says:

    And what a hell is an E-box? Are you talking about the E-meter?

  31. Nick says:

    Jay, are you a working psychiatrist? Your responses are insulting and you are not getting to the point. I’m worried about your patients being helped by a person calling somebody, who has studied 5 years at the university, “you may actually fall between in the imbecilic range” etc.

    This is totally ridiculous. Answer the questions and don’t behave like you’re 18 years old, perhaps you are?

    Nick

  32. Nick says:

    Lobotomy could sometimes cause epilepsy. I don’t doubt that physical symptoms such as brain cancer can cause misbehaviour in the brain. If you don’t eat, you will start to feel bad and might also be depressed because of this. Yes, we agree on that one.

    The important thing here is to find out when the mental disease originates from the mind, and when it originates from physical causes.

    Do you agree that there might be mental illness caused by the mind, or originate from the mind? Or the spirit itself?

  33. Jay says:

    Nick

    I misspoke. Scientology has not been proven to be a absolutely idiotic belief over nd over. It has only been proven to be a moronic belief over and over. It has clearly been shown that Xenu, for example, was only a moron, not an idiot. Now, my suspicion is that you may actually fall between in the imbecilic range but only a true psychologist, administering an IQ test would know for sure. Of course, it would help if he had you hooked up to an e-box during the examination so he could audit your responses simultaneously.

    Jay

  34. Sigmund says:

    My dearest Nickie,

    Thank you so much for answering me. It means a lot to met to know that you care.

    Would your negative answer apply to brain cancer too? How about when brain cancer causes pressure in the brain to build up and subsequent psychotic symptoms develop? If you cannot audit out the cancer can you at least clear the psychotic symptoms that develop? How about when cirrhotics develop hepatic encephalopathy? Can you audit the psychiatric manifestations of this disease as well?

    Once again, I am indeed hanging upon your promptmost of prompt responses, Siggie

  35. Nick says:

    And Jay…

    Please, “Scientology has been proven to be an absolutely idiotic belief over and over.”

    What a hell are you talking about? Can’t you acknowledge anything good about scientology? I have acknowledged some good things about psychiatry. Now you’re behaving just like Cruise, totally refusing too see anything good with something else than your “religion”. That makes it hard to take you seriously.

    I’ve heard of cases where epilepsy has been cured with auditing for example.

    Nick

  36. e lear says:

    there once was a man named cruise
    whose ego deseved a big bruise
    then he went onto oprah
    and jumped on a sofa
    his popularity he would soon lose

  37. Nick says:

    First of all, I would like to know what a hell kind of forum this is? Is it for Psychiatrists?? Could somebody please tell me.

    I would also like to know why some people here behave like they are either mentally retarded or about 14 years old? Did you let the patients in here as well?

    Sigmund,

    I don’t think cancer could be audited out. I don’t think any scientologist think so. Diabetics? I don’t think so either. Although some physical diseases might be able to track back to the Reactive Mind, there is actually something called bacterias, cancer etc. If somebody cut of your arm, would you be able to audit it back? Of course not.

    Jay,

    Your arguments for brutal history are laughable. The difference between all those historic engagements and psychiatry, is that psychiatry says it HELPS people. Its mission is to CURE people. How the hell is that accomplished with lobotomy, making them lose their brainfunctions etc?

    I cannot either take responsability for what Cruise says in the media.

    Regarding the scientifically proven imbalance, I don’t doubt that. There’s certainly a chemical imbalance, but CAUSED by the mind.

    If somebody can’t drive a bus, why do you psychiatrists put extra big and soft bumpers on it? Why do you put bullet-proof glass in it? Why do you ask all the passengers to buckle up twice in the seats? Why not get to the real problem? The driver? (In this case, the easiest would be to exchange him).

    Nick

  38. Jennifer again says:

    Hmmmmm….limericks….well-written, funny, yet a bit harsh for our Nick.

    Maybe Tom Cruise is a better target

  39. Sigmund says:

    Nick,

    I find your insight into mental illness fascinating. Do your theories hold true for other disease states as well? Or do your theories only apply to one organ, the brain? Can you clear diabetics? Can you audit cancer? It would be so cool if you could. Hanging on your response, I am, faithfully yours, Siggie

  40. l ron says:

    You all are so immature. Are you sure you are in college?

  41. e lear says:

    i once know a man named nick
    who really was a big dick
    then he read dianetics
    and developed his fetish
    for sticking an e-box in his prick

  42. oh nickie i want you so badly don’t worry you know katie is a ruse i want you you clear me . . .oh stop. . .you had me at i want you oh baby do it to me with your e-box yeah right there oh you’re you’re so not pc do it one more time

  43. Jay says:

    Well I go on duty very shortly, but I have time to answer Nick there. Nick, you’re playing an old game of double talk. Here’s a few questions for you that invalidate your complaints about the history of psychiatry…yeah the key word being HISTORY, you know, the learning process we all go through in life that even professionals must go through in the development of science.

    You ask why Psychiatry has a brutal history. Ok, sure. I can answer that….with a few questions for you to answer.

    1. Why does mankind have a brutal history?

    2. Why do we have serial killers and rapists? Shouldn’t they be more spiritual and love their fellows?

    3. Why do we fight wars?

    4. Why does religion have a brutal history? Why have they oppressed, tortured and murdered people to force their beliefs on those that don’t want them (kind of like forcing the belief of not having to take a medication on a person whos life is a nightmare without it)?

    5. Why would you let someone suffer when counseling or talking to others alone does not help them and their quality of life is ruined?

    6. Why have Psychiatrists championed the rights of the mentally ill and ended such brutal practices liek those you cite if they are evil people bent on ruining others lives?

    7. How can a movie star with no medical knowledge at all sput propoganda and expect the rest of us to take it as scientific fact?

    Sorry man, all of you scientologists are the same. You twist facts, cite barbatic techniques that were ended as we became more enlightened, and try to point out the psych drugs on the streets today. Guess what? There will always be those that abuse any substance that we come across, but that;s no excuse to make others suffer.

  44. Jennifer again says:

    Just like any physical disease, the symptoms will always be there. Bipolar disorder is an illness, not a mindstate. Last year, scientists located the gene that carries bipolar and schizophrenia, both of which are present in our family tree.

    Your “bipolar-like episode” does not sound anything like the horrific extremes of true bipolar episodes. If you are truly interested in learning about bipolar, “audit” a mental health support group, where you will find a balance to the information you are receiving from your organization.

  45. Jay says:

    THe problem Nick is that Cruise is basing his comments on ignorant ramblings and propoganda rather than facts.

    He really offended a lot of people, and I hope it ruins his career. I can’t figure out what Katie Holmes sees in an idiot like him. He’s an overgrown child, always has been and always will be.

    All hios ramblings on Today were exactly that…..ramblings. Modern psychiatry has done a lot to help people with mental disorders. Whenever I do a 911 call for a true psychological emergency, generally 1 of 3 things happens.

    1. It’s acute, like a panic attack. Example: I did a call a few weeks ago for a 24 year old female with no medical hx at all, who could not breath and was barely responsive. Why? Well, it was finals week,she broke up with her boyfriend, and she was afraid she may be failing organic chemistry which would hold her back from her med school application process another semester. We calmed her down, a counselor spoke with her, and she was discharged feeling much better without any drug therapy at all.

    2. The person has never been diagnosed before and for one reason or other is having an acute episode other than something like anxiety. Something along the lines of paranoid schitzophrenia manifesting itself in an acute episode for the forst time.

    3. The person functions normally if they take their meds, and decided to stop taking them or has been ill and has not been compliant. These people have SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN CHEMICAL IMBALANCES and must be on medication to live a productive life. No amount of spirituality will help them, and as a matter of fact those that are religious/spiritual have hallucinations of demons or whatnot trying to possess them.

    Scientology has been proven to be an absolutely idiotic belief over and over. Ramblings from fools like Cruise don’t help your position any. Especially when he gets angry over people taking medications they need.

    Now, I will admit there are a lot of kids on ritalin and such, and that ADHD seems in a lot of cases to be kjust a kid acting out like kids are wont to do. But, that doesn’t disprove psychiatry as a whole, and you have to be a very uneducated and ignorant person to think it does.

  46. TB says:

    Hmmm. Seems maybe someone has struck one of Nick’s nerves, or slapped his thetan…..

  47. Nick says:

    Google and I think Cruise scientology and then a few pages later… The world is really globalized nowadays.

    Well, if psychiatry has worked for you, good for you. One of the problems though is that your bipolar disorder remains, right? Psychiatry has eased the symptoms.

    Funny though, when I got a bad flu about six years ago I afterwords developed some kind of “easy” bi-polar experience for a couple of weeks. It was sort of interesting. I would feel “very high” for some hours, and then it would go down into a “low mode”, and then return. All kinds of specific, different conditions recurring over and over again in cycles. It strenghtened my belief that it was an engram in cycle. It was very hands-on, but I guess not as developed as real bi-polar disorder. It went away by itself though after some weeks.

    Well, the reactive mind can play tricks on you, all kinds of tricks. I have no doubt that chemical substances such as medical drugs, plain drugs or some plain simple alcohol affect you – for a moment, but not for life, at least not in a good way.

    That’s why auditing can create a more sustainable effect. I remember one time, when I was auditing that very flu incident I described above. I was in LA on a course. We went through, i.e. audited, the incident of illness over and over again, I felt quite tired of it.

    Then suddenly, I felt like “expanding spiritually”, I don’t really know how to describe it. Like a burden was lift of you, like the feeling of being in love perhaps? I was expanding and expanding, almost scary, because I was thinking… Jeeez, when is this going to stop? Expanding…. then it stopped. Wow! From that moment on I was dead-on certain that auditing was not just BS made up crap. WOW! What the hell was that?? I LITERALLY felt energy streaming out of me… it probably lasted for a couple of hours, but man… I never forget that. If that was imagination, hell, it’s worth it baby. What happened was probably that I blew some mental energy charge. Like I said, I’ll never ever forget that moment.

    That’s some of my experiences.

  48. Jennifer says:

    Like all medical disciplines, psychiatry does have a barbaric past. Unfortunately, medical advancements are made in a trial and error fashion until something that works is discovered.

    All I can say is, I see a psychiatrist who treats me as a whole person. He understands my family dynamic, my career, my personal interests. He has seen the devastation bipolar disorder has visited on me and how incapacitated I have been by it. He has helped me explore ways to help control the symptoms through biofeedback, relaxation, and counseling. But because this is a veritable illness, I also need to take some medications to keep my brain (and yes, my mind) functioning.

    I too thought that psychiatric medications were for the weak, the less evolved, or those who were looking for a quick fix. Because of this, I lost out on 15 years of my life.

    Out of curiosity, how did you find this website over there in Sweden? I found it by typing “Tom Cruise is such an ass” into Yahoo. I’m wondering if you did the same? 🙂

  49. Nick says:

    Well, I was searching the web and found this, the university of Oregon? I’ve actually been to Oregon, Portland and Eugene, it was a very nice state, much more nature than Sweden where I come from. Are you guys all studying to become psychiatrists or psychologists?

    Anyway, I wouldn’t say I’m weak minded Timothy, although I have to be open to that I might be, one should always be open to anything.

    I was very reluctant to Scientology at first, my dad got into it and I was like: What the hell, crap cult etc. Then I read some books for kicks, but I still wasn’t interested.

    One day I told him he should quit, and then he said: Hasn’t Scientology helped you a lot? I thought about it for a short moment and then realized, yes, it actually had. From that day I considered myself a scientologist. By my own will.

    Although I believe psychiatry has helped some people, the brutal history of psychiatry is interesting. Why does it has such a brutal history? If you compare it to scientology and all the “brutalness” it has been accused of, psychiatry would easily win. Over 50 000 people lobotomized in the US, 4 500 in Sweden where I live. Why is that? Why did they so quickly adapt to such a destructive method?

    http://www.lobotomy.info

    And the ECT, how the hell could any sane, rational being give ECT without sedatives to people like they did in the 50’s etc?? We are talking Saddam torture camp here. Wtih tax payers money. Jeeez….

    http://www.ect.org

    And the insuline chock treatment, and nowadays the heavy drugs, some of them out on the street, like Ritalin for example. Is more drugs the solution?

    I’m just saying “Hello?”. Why is the history of psychiatry like that? Is there any reason?

    Nick

  50. Jennifer says:

    I agree that drugs are overprescribed to children and adults. I am a teacher and one of my students was a very bright, but lazy in his school work habits. His overachieving parents could not accept that he could willfully be avoiding schoolwork and had him diagnosed as ADHD. This child was so far from ADHD it was incredible. I spoke with three of his previous teachers and they all agreed that there was no way he met the criteria. But, rather than accept their precious angel just didn’t want to do his work, he is now labled disabled because he can not do his work!

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