So I see y’all have run Jimmy B off the thread but the absurdity of y’all denying settled science while the arctic melts and natural disaster “firsts” happen all over the world will hopefully eventually dawn on you.

http://www.economist.com/node/21556798

So I see y’all have run Jimmy B off the thread but the absurdity of y’all denying settled science while the arctic melts and natural disaster “firsts” happen all over the world will hopefully eventually dawn on you.

http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/histo61.png

OMG.. Its shooting up like a ROCKET!

But…

http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/histo3.png

Huh… what? what happen….

That massive warming turned into a blip…
(data taken from ice cores)

Another thing is around 1000 AD the Vikings were harvesting Birch Trees in Greenland to build their villages… And the Tower of London was being built

Here is a painting around the time of the Tower of London (take note the water level)

http://www.botticellisvision.com/images/Tower_of_London_Painting.jpg

Now here is a current picture of the Tower of London.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-33OaKp_t6KY/Tq-bQQwCKtI/AAAAAAAAA60/wpxt1HChr8I/s1600/Tower+of+London.jpg

Hmmm… So back around 1000 AD ice core data has the temperature much higher than it is today. Birch Trees were growing in Greenland, grapes were growing in UK and yet… the water levels are nearly exactly the same in the painting and in the photograph.

Jimmy doesn’t even read his own science… The IPCC says the amount of people threaten by global warming isnt 7 billion (the true sign of an irrational alarmist position)… its about 150k a year… mostly those who would be displaced by sea level rise… which isnt happening.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

Then we come to the cost of ‘global warming’. The EU has stated they plan to spend about $250 billion a year for the next 100 years to combat global warming. 25 Trillion dollars…. and the end results of their effort… maybe… just maybe they will achieve 1 degree of cooling.

This guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

Has claimed that we are going about global warming all wrong. He put a movie out about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_It:_The_Skeptical_Environmentalist%27s_Guide_to_Global_Warming

Its available on Netflix and Blockbuster on demand (via Dish) if you want to watch it.

He basically states doing cap & trade or carbon taxes will accomplishing nothing but corruption. Just another system to be manipulated by the rich and the politicians. That there are much smarter ways to address the issue.

There is only one reason… and one reason only people like Lomborg and Drapela are being attacked.

MONEY!

The amount of money being shoveled at the global warming community is astounding. I watched an interview with a few scientists that stated:

If you want to do a study on the mating habits of the Eastern Gray Squirrels… Chances are… you wont get any grant money.

BUT…

If you want to do a study on how Climate Change effects the mating habits of the Eastern Gray Squirrels… Then there is boatloads of grant cash just waiting to be tapped into.

If scientists can wrap their studies around climate change… they are flush with cash.

Honestly… you think OSU and the rest of the scientific community are not going to protect this cash cow.. with ANYTHING it takes?

If you do… you are not living in the real world.

It also seems to be the climate change alarmists who will stop at nothing to shut down dissent and open debate on the facts of climate change. They go to extraordinary lengths to stop anyone who has the audacity to question questionable science.

Al Gore made speeches on a California beach stating that the beach would be gone in 10 years due to the melting polar ice. He also pushed for the purchase of carbon credits which would have may his holdings skyrocket.

Last year, he bought an expensive house on that very beach.

I guess nobody noticed.

Sort of makes one think that the Sun might have something to do with it.

Any UNPROVEN theory is open to question including man global warming caused by man.

Students should not just drink the Kool-Aid and take everything they hear as fact. They should question everything and look at the sources of the so called doctrine being forced on them.

They will try to blame the heating of our planet on natural cycles, cosmic rays, solar intensity, ocean currents….anything and everything EXCEPT the heat trapping gasses getting spewed into our atmosphere by billions of people.

Read the garbage that Drapela has fabricated. Students deserve better than that.

It would seem you don’t really understand how the scietific method works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
1.Define a question
2.Gather information and resources (observe)
3.Form an explanatory hypothesis
4.Test the hypothesis by performing an experiment and collecting data in a reproducible manner
5.Analyze the data
6.Interpret the data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
7.Publish results
8.Retest (frequently done by other scientists)

While there is evidence supporting anthropogenic climate change, it is also known to be a natural process (see previous ice ages). Dr. Drapela’s position is that the green movement is less about science and more about religion; any “non-believers” or “deniers” need to be burned at the stake. The fact of the matter is that climate science is so infant that we can’t even predict the weather with certainty 3 days ahead of time. All climate change models that predict what the earth will look like in 50 years are all just guesses.

Good science is never settled.
“We are always hearing of people who are around seeking after the Truth. I have never seen a (permanent) specimen. I think he has never lived. But I have seen several entirely sincere people who thought they were (permanent) Seekers after the Truth. They sought diligently, persistently, carefully, cautiously, profoundly, with perfect honesty and nicely adjusted judgment- until they believed that without doubt or question they had found the Truth. That was the end of the search. The man spent the rest of his life hunting up shingles wherewith to protect his Truth from the weather.”
-Mark Twain